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		<title>By: darby drake</title>
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		<dc:creator>darby drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt whatever in my enfeebled mind that alleged Great Houdini II did not escape at all.  He was allowed to leave with his family and is now living it upn somewhere at the expense of Singapore taxpayers. His escape would have been recorded on CCTV  cameras.  No tapes, no escape.  In fact, Houdini II was not a terrorist at all but an ISD plant who has been operating like an Asian James Bond from Day I.   How come the 13 were caught and he managed to escape?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt whatever in my enfeebled mind that alleged Great Houdini II did not escape at all.  He was allowed to leave with his family and is now living it upn somewhere at the expense of Singapore taxpayers. His escape would have been recorded on CCTV  cameras.  No tapes, no escape.  In fact, Houdini II was not a terrorist at all but an ISD plant who has been operating like an Asian James Bond from Day I.   How come the 13 were caught and he managed to escape?</p>
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		<title>By: The Great Escape of Mas Selamat Kastari - Revisiting ISA &#171; Readings From A Political Duo-ble</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Great Escape of Mas Selamat Kastari - Revisiting ISA &#171; Readings From A Political Duo-ble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2. Escape has yet to dent govt’s hubris, theonlinecitizen, 6 March 2008, Gerald Giam [...]</description>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people are screaming for heads to roll, but what they don&#039;t see is that when something like this happens, heads will definitely roll, within the stat boards involved, but I don&#039;t think any person&#039;s identity/reputation should be plastered in the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people are screaming for heads to roll, but what they don&#8217;t see is that when something like this happens, heads will definitely roll, within the stat boards involved, but I don&#8217;t think any person&#8217;s identity/reputation should be plastered in the media.</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the Public Statements made by DPM Wong Kan Seng, MM Lee Kuan Yew and PM Lee Hsien Loong, I am unable to discern any differences amongst them.

Basically they all said the same thing; that it was unfortunate that something had gone wrong and though it was(is) serious, let us all chip in to make amend. There was no hint that someone or anyone should and shall be made answerable at least in a Disciplinary Inquiry, aside from the Commission of Inquiry. Those directly related to the Escape such as the Duty Personnels at the Remand Centre at the Time of Escape and their commanders supervising them, should be asked for the events immediately before the Escape and made public, minimum expectation of the people is a summary of the Incident.  

The people was expecting the Government to account for the Incident and make those involved, directly or indirectly, accountable. But so far, there were only expressions of regret and calls for closing rank. But what rank are there to close unless the Government sees and admits a division between itself and the people. There was a blunder in the Escape of a detainee, the Leaders should not allow a bigger blunder from the Incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the Public Statements made by DPM Wong Kan Seng, MM Lee Kuan Yew and PM Lee Hsien Loong, I am unable to discern any differences amongst them.</p>
<p>Basically they all said the same thing; that it was unfortunate that something had gone wrong and though it was(is) serious, let us all chip in to make amend. There was no hint that someone or anyone should and shall be made answerable at least in a Disciplinary Inquiry, aside from the Commission of Inquiry. Those directly related to the Escape such as the Duty Personnels at the Remand Centre at the Time of Escape and their commanders supervising them, should be asked for the events immediately before the Escape and made public, minimum expectation of the people is a summary of the Incident.  </p>
<p>The people was expecting the Government to account for the Incident and make those involved, directly or indirectly, accountable. But so far, there were only expressions of regret and calls for closing rank. But what rank are there to close unless the Government sees and admits a division between itself and the people. There was a blunder in the Escape of a detainee, the Leaders should not allow a bigger blunder from the Incident.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert HO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert HO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RH:
1.  Ha, ha, ha!  This is pathetic.  No insights into KASTARI, no apology for his cousin-in-law WONG KS&#039;s mindboggling MIShandling of the escape and afterward, no firm leadership in taking over WKS&#039;s obviously failed and flawed &#039;leadership&#039;, no firm words on punishing the wrongdoers and blunderers from the ISD guards to supervisors to Director or even WKS himself, NO so many, many things... [see   http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/STIStory_215009.html   ]

2.  Just a very lame and LIMP speech which offers no information, no direction, no promise to improve things, just more &#039;please wait for the COI&#039;, made up of a former judge now working and paid handsomely by LEE&amp;LEE, a serving, equally handsomely paid ambassador and equally mindboggling, a Director of the very ministry being investigated!  This is how a dictatorship works.

3.  I had, in previous conversations with my wife, pointed out that the dictatorship system tends to prefer stupid people in its choice of cronies, a stupid populace who are thus more manageable and less critical, a stupid electorate who cannot see further than some simple cheques at election time and forego their greater interests when such money blandishments are forcibly taken back, with interest, through higher taxes on everything, etc.

4.  I had, in those private/public conversations, mentioned that the Singaporean usually can do reasonably when given a detailed IM [must be in English!] or Instruction Manual to follow but fails miserably when the situation is unanticipated and original thinking, analysis or just common sense, are required.

5.  WHAT I DID NOT REALISE IS THAT EVEN AT THE VERY TOP, AT LIE KY AND LHL AND WKS LEVELS, THIS LACK OF AN I.M. CONFOUNDS THEM TOO!  Horror of horrors!  We all know that the LIEgime copies from Hongkong, Japan and the West, but that at least, there would be some people at the top at least who don&#039;t need IMs!  I was wrong.  Even LIE KY, LHL, WKS proved to be so stupid in mishandling this entire fiasco that they were nonplussed and SPEECHLESS, LIE KY until a day ago and LIE HL today.  After too many bloggers had ridiculed them for zipping their golden mouths so tightly.

6.  In any other non-despotic country, a Govt and Ministers who

a.  wait 4 hours to inform their people that a possibly desperate, wanted man is loose [but little information else]
b.  wait several days to reveal what he was wearing
c.  refuse to reveal HOW he escaped and other burning questions already asked by bloggers and pressmen
d.  refuse to show cctv shots when such cctvs are everywhere, covering every sq cm [even in the PMO&#039;s Election Dept].  [This could be because there are NO recent cctv shots since maybe KASTARI is dead and all cctv footage is date and time stamped]
e.  appoint a COI made up of cronies and other employees of LEE&amp;LEE
f.  pretend not to have an opinion or say nothing for &gt;week
etc, etc,

would have come under heavy condemnation by all and ridiculed to death, but not in fear-gripped and obedient Singapore.

7.  To the LIEgime, this is more explosive than if KASTARI had blown up Changi Airport as alleged, because KASTARI had in actuality, BLOWN UP THE LIEgime&#039;s FAKED AND FALSELY PAINTED IMAGE OF INFALLIBILITY AND COMPETENCE.  JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS NO I.M.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RH:<br />
1.  Ha, ha, ha!  This is pathetic.  No insights into KASTARI, no apology for his cousin-in-law WONG KS&#8217;s mindboggling MIShandling of the escape and afterward, no firm leadership in taking over WKS&#8217;s obviously failed and flawed &#8216;leadership&#8217;, no firm words on punishing the wrongdoers and blunderers from the ISD guards to supervisors to Director or even WKS himself, NO so many, many things&#8230; [see   <a href="http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/STIStory_215009.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/STIStory_215009.html</a>   ]</p>
<p>2.  Just a very lame and LIMP speech which offers no information, no direction, no promise to improve things, just more &#8216;please wait for the COI&#8217;, made up of a former judge now working and paid handsomely by LEE&amp;LEE, a serving, equally handsomely paid ambassador and equally mindboggling, a Director of the very ministry being investigated!  This is how a dictatorship works.</p>
<p>3.  I had, in previous conversations with my wife, pointed out that the dictatorship system tends to prefer stupid people in its choice of cronies, a stupid populace who are thus more manageable and less critical, a stupid electorate who cannot see further than some simple cheques at election time and forego their greater interests when such money blandishments are forcibly taken back, with interest, through higher taxes on everything, etc.</p>
<p>4.  I had, in those private/public conversations, mentioned that the Singaporean usually can do reasonably when given a detailed IM [must be in English!] or Instruction Manual to follow but fails miserably when the situation is unanticipated and original thinking, analysis or just common sense, are required.</p>
<p>5.  WHAT I DID NOT REALISE IS THAT EVEN AT THE VERY TOP, AT LIE KY AND LHL AND WKS LEVELS, THIS LACK OF AN I.M. CONFOUNDS THEM TOO!  Horror of horrors!  We all know that the LIEgime copies from Hongkong, Japan and the West, but that at least, there would be some people at the top at least who don&#8217;t need IMs!  I was wrong.  Even LIE KY, LHL, WKS proved to be so stupid in mishandling this entire fiasco that they were nonplussed and SPEECHLESS, LIE KY until a day ago and LIE HL today.  After too many bloggers had ridiculed them for zipping their golden mouths so tightly.</p>
<p>6.  In any other non-despotic country, a Govt and Ministers who</p>
<p>a.  wait 4 hours to inform their people that a possibly desperate, wanted man is loose [but little information else]<br />
b.  wait several days to reveal what he was wearing<br />
c.  refuse to reveal HOW he escaped and other burning questions already asked by bloggers and pressmen<br />
d.  refuse to show cctv shots when such cctvs are everywhere, covering every sq cm [even in the PMO's Election Dept].  [This could be because there are NO recent cctv shots since maybe KASTARI is dead and all cctv footage is date and time stamped]<br />
e.  appoint a COI made up of cronies and other employees of LEE&amp;LEE<br />
f.  pretend not to have an opinion or say nothing for &gt;week<br />
etc, etc,</p>
<p>would have come under heavy condemnation by all and ridiculed to death, but not in fear-gripped and obedient Singapore.</p>
<p>7.  To the LIEgime, this is more explosive than if KASTARI had blown up Changi Airport as alleged, because KASTARI had in actuality, BLOWN UP THE LIEgime&#8217;s FAKED AND FALSELY PAINTED IMAGE OF INFALLIBILITY AND COMPETENCE.  JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS NO I.M.!</p>
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		<title>By: gunddu</title>
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		<dc:creator>gunddu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAD TO SAY THAT....  WE  ARE  THE WORLD&#039;S LAUGHING STOCK ..

WE ARE GOVERNED BY POOR CORPORATE GOVERNANCE ...

who doesnt know the definition  on independent committee...

who fear to face the press....

lack of internal control..

no back up plan...

OH GOD! THEY HAVE GOOD DIRECTOR&#039;S REMUNERATION!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAD TO SAY THAT&#8230;.  WE  ARE  THE WORLD&#8217;S LAUGHING STOCK ..</p>
<p>WE ARE GOVERNED BY POOR CORPORATE GOVERNANCE &#8230;</p>
<p>who doesnt know the definition  on independent committee&#8230;</p>
<p>who fear to face the press&#8230;.</p>
<p>lack of internal control..</p>
<p>no back up plan&#8230;</p>
<p>OH GOD! THEY HAVE GOOD DIRECTOR&#8217;S REMUNERATION!</p>
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		<title>By: migrate_asap</title>
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		<dc:creator>migrate_asap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satirical humor:
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6861/masescapelessonwe0.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satirical humor:<br />
<a href="http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6861/masescapelessonwe0.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6861/masescapelessonwe0.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: LifesLikeThat</title>
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		<dc:creator>LifesLikeThat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could stop Chee Soon Juan at the airport.

They could stop James Gomes at the airport.

BUT!

They COULD NOT stop Richard Yong flying to Hong Kong.

They COULD NOT stop Took Leng How from WALKING across the causeway.

They COULD NOT stop a LIMPING man from escaping through a prison window.

Conclusion: Opposition members are more dangerous and closely-guarded than terrorists, murderers and frauds.

Uniquely Singapore. PAP makes me sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could stop Chee Soon Juan at the airport.</p>
<p>They could stop James Gomes at the airport.</p>
<p>BUT!</p>
<p>They COULD NOT stop Richard Yong flying to Hong Kong.</p>
<p>They COULD NOT stop Took Leng How from WALKING across the causeway.</p>
<p>They COULD NOT stop a LIMPING man from escaping through a prison window.</p>
<p>Conclusion: Opposition members are more dangerous and closely-guarded than terrorists, murderers and frauds.</p>
<p>Uniquely Singapore. PAP makes me sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Supersub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supersub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point that has yet to be blogged - bloggers pls note! - is this:

    Assuming it was right to imprison this Mas Selamat guy, why were non-security threats such as Francis Seow, catholic social workers, and Teo Soh Lung taken in under ISD? 

    How can these people be worth so much money? They&#039;re just gansters and thugs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point that has yet to be blogged &#8211; bloggers pls note! &#8211; is this:</p>
<p>    Assuming it was right to imprison this Mas Selamat guy, why were non-security threats such as Francis Seow, catholic social workers, and Teo Soh Lung taken in under ISD? </p>
<p>    How can these people be worth so much money? They&#8217;re just gansters and thugs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marijuna singabola</title>
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		<dc:creator>marijuna singabola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh singaporean... oh singaporean.. how long must you stuck yr head into the hole like an ostrich??? still believe in first world leaders we have??? we are been skinned alive by all their ways &amp; means for their own benefit. wake up lah or get ready for yr own funeral.or are we too self-centred that as long as it does not hurt my way of daily living then it is not my business. a sick country with sick people......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh singaporean&#8230; oh singaporean.. how long must you stuck yr head into the hole like an ostrich??? still believe in first world leaders we have??? we are been skinned alive by all their ways &amp; means for their own benefit. wake up lah or get ready for yr own funeral.or are we too self-centred that as long as it does not hurt my way of daily living then it is not my business. a sick country with sick people&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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